The dust is far from settled on the US Presidential Election 2020 but the clear Biden victory suggests a revived (and welcome) role for coherent policy making at home and abroad for the next four years.
What does this mean for Wales, the UK and the wider world and what did we learn about America during the election? To discuss with Matt and Ceri is political scientist Dr Jac Larner - a specialist in political psychology and Fullbright Fellow - and Jane Davidson, former Welsh Government Minister and author of #FutureGen, the story of the Wellbeing of Future Generations Act.